Nov. 7, 2025

Inside the Psychic Toolbox: A Conversation with Sue Jorgenson

Inside the Psychic Toolbox: A Conversation with Sue Jorgenson

In this enlightening episode of Dial Up Intuition, I sit down with psychic medium, tarot card reader, and astrologer Sue Jorgenson for a heartfelt and insightful conversation about her intuitive journey. Sue shares how she discovered her gifts, the spiritual tools she uses daily, and how each one plays a unique role in her readings and client work.


From astrology charts to tarot spreads to energetic downloads, Sue walks us through her “psychic toolbox” and offers tips for those just starting to explore their own intuitive abilities. Whether you’re curious about developing your spiritual gifts or simply love hearing how others use theirs, this episode is filled with wisdom, warmth, and inspiration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What does it look like to truly embrace your psychic gifts?

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[SPEAKER_01]: In this episode, I sit down with psychic medium, tarot card reader, and astrologer, Sue Georgensen, who opens up about how she discovered her intuitive abilities and continues to expand on them every 15 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the powerful psychic toolbox she now uses to help others.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you've ever wondered how these gifts unfold, or how to start trusting your own, you'll love this interview.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Dial Up Intuition, a podcast that invites you to awaken and expand your intuition.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host Kat Sanders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a radio and television broadcaster before a massive brain hemorrhage caused me to flatline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That life-changing event led to a beautiful near-death experience, and when I came back, I returned with some profound truths and the ability to connect with the other side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In this podcast we'll explore these truths and learn how to strengthen your intuition and intuitive gifts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll hear conversations with remarkable intuitives who share how their gifts came alive evolved and became part of their daily lives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So whether you're just beginning you're intuitive journey or you're ready to go deeper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is your space to be inspired, guided, and reminded that your intuitive gift was always within you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's begin and dial up our intuition together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, today we've got Sue Jorgensen here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sue is a medium and a terocard reader and she does astrology.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, she's a psychic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She is your all-around expert in everything intuitive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I am just so excited to have her here with us today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So welcome Sue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Kakam.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm delighted to be here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: great, great, great to have yous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you are you are deaf and you've been deaf since birth or a parent it happened in a part of my mom's pregnancy but yes I born deep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And back in the fetus I would not easily discover it until the child was maybe three or four years old and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Luckily, the band out when I was four months old, I had my birthday night at 9-1.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And everything then, it's been interesting, let's say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're asking, uh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do you care if it's in the background, my intuitive development?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say yes because when you meet in the sense, I do the five senses, you compensate in other ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so maybe that would hurt me home, my parents have a division, having to listen to my prayer, but it not like you have to be there to become intuitive or to lose any of his senses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very weird spectrum, but I would say my case is it didn't help me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, thank you for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you bet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell us all how long you've been doing this and how you got started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, sing, take it about intuition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a knowing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always knew, but I didn't have the words of vocabulary until I was 12 or 18 or 19, 16 and when a new library opened up and I discovered

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[SPEAKER_00]: Expose and affluent and about ESP We can't use them to code, we name it That would be one thirty-three point nine in the do we do at our system

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't even remember the duty decimal system so many of us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I wonder if I've had time on it, and in reading all the books, my third club was a reality that I studied study and it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And within a number of years, by the time I was about 20 years old, I was doing shots by hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those books finally gave me the name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The vocabulary before I had always known.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Intervalidation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always knew there was some kind of an afterlife not heaven in hell, but an afterlife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I knew we've lived before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That card we incarnate and vow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And other things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that I indicated things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a third edition that was mine burned to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the teen years after that in 1980, I had my birthday to tell you, reading, and I was upset and offended by the cold because how could they know so much about me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How could that cold have the inside burned to me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So decided I had to learn about them in big air fries, and that when I learned a cold, they are tools.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So someone did this tarot card reading for you and they were just absolutely accurate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get, I cannot remember a word of what she said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember for her in South York City, but what she said, I have no recollection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's her, but afterwards I had to hear the TV there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Huh, but you had always been intuitive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but the whole point was how could the cards do that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And after I started studying, they were learning them and then doing readings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when I realized the tools.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the interpretation from the intuitive that's pulling the cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very likely, but ten years later, I got tapped on the shoulder by mediumsup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was at the bedside of a dying relative when I saw it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye-bye, the relative around her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, well, I love you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've come to show up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm busy with a one-up, a book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I started other people started to show up in my theory, readings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I finally had to ask my guide.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what's going on here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where did these people come from?

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[UNKNOWN]: Inside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that if you want to continue this, we will see you all the while we have the about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't want to, we'll take it away from you and you'll never have to worry about it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did only took me a 9 second test this time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey you guys, I'm all in Let's Go with it and I've been doing medium check every 10 to 26 see it now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 15 years later, we see an apartment here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm seeing 14 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a pattern.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very specific and fly every 15 years, I have no clue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is 2014.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've learned more about my spare guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've become more apparent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've had already known about one of them since 1988.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in the case, I was able to take what I learned and teach other people how to meet their guides.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the next 15 year thing will be in 2020 and I have no idea what they're going to send me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but for more years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for more years, you'll find out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, not a clue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at different things, but I won't know until it cooks into place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'll be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think other people get their gifts this way that they just show up and... Everybody's different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people have the one gift.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They find with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Other people with had maybe two, maybe more good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But had they discovered them everybody's different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is fascinating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know my gift or gifts came out in very unusual ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I started with automatic writing and then I started seeing movies in my head I was seeing like the inside of people's homes and then I was seeing people and I I was still recovering from brain surgery and I didn't know if it was my brain acting up or if it was something different

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I didn't know what to do, so you're right, different ways for different people based on their individualness, I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So everybody gets their gift a little different way, I guess, but it's probably unique just like every, every gift that you get and every message that you get is unique based on the individual soul or personality of the person receiving it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So your gifts come every 15 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get something new and different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A parent and two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it'd be my new one pop up in between, but that did not part of my toolbox.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, not made up helps it to toolbox, I did say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't really used my automatic writing and maybe I should, maybe I should go back to it, but I've relied on my mediumship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And...

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[SPEAKER_01]: worked more on that so now you work with your spirit guides was there and I know they showed up when you were there in Sedona you have you say three that you work with mostly to this come to you different times do you call them up how does that work well when I took my sister to Sedona with somebody I was back in 88 I was hiking around

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a big, big plato.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anybody who can feel rock would know that plato It's a pretty easy come up to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that does it meditating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of a sudden, they're dark-haired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: May ten guys search up in front of me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not weird, huh?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Native American, blue-deemed, white-seed, wild-up-seed, white-man-town-y, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're telling me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Until we talk, and he let me know that he's my mategal, I'm going to meet him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's out in return until then, even he had a fight with you, even with one or two black fairies, and I'm a black woman with maybe a sprint in the fight fairies, fight being the victim, and we fly out with these children of mine, and not with that, I didn't know, I knew I had other guys, but they would not make themselves known to me, so I

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[SPEAKER_00]: with me and it wasn't until 2014 that a psychic don't get mad he is no DC but some of guides to you for me and that will now learn really that we have a magical

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[SPEAKER_00]: a life guide and a protection guide that is out there when I started to learn that I always felt that I was unsure with to them because they were on the other side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am a full member of that team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I happened to be on the earthy, corporate side with a body.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doing this on this planet and what really shocked me but it makes sense when I think about it

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[SPEAKER_00]: learning from me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you really experience this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so my guide will let them sit in the front of you and you're asking me a question about and I don't know, you're your own, and they have this fuck for me, been for me, sent for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dump her on me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so, with the learning path, I can't turn her on and dump her on you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to assess you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you stable enough to handle the information?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do I tell you this information that it might go all the world with you and you will be accepted here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you in a calm manner?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not upset and wringing your hands or there's something horrible going on in your life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And how do I live like it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do I live like I don't buy item or do I did kind of encapsulate it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or do I hold up on some of it until the day that I've had time to dig it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm telling you, then you'll be ready for the next message.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, my guy did try to write it about having all this information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to worry, I'm going to tell you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to tell you how I'm sitting in front of you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at how the college is happening and I'm in front of you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm counting to you while you're in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you what I'm doing to tell you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, the learning that I'm doing, I'm going to tell you how I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to tell you what I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to tell you what I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to tell you what I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to tell you what I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were tuned in all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We would not be grounded at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you explained that first of all you were in meditation so you believe meditation helps you calm your mind and tune in and then you explained you saw your spirit guide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you see him like a full body or did was then this was in your mind's eye?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Within my mind's eye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you saw yourself and you turned into ravens?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the mouth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what did it feel like a dream?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or how did it feel when you were watching this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Both the bell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not there to meditate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I did happen to see others.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know they were wondering for me to do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did with the bell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Made it up out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just simply seeing what I'm seeing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't feel like a connected dream like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very pragmatic, so that's how they handled it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did so to feel the same size and applying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've read over to the owner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, it was more real, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you've been meditating me too, guys, I don't know how you would be because everybody's different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When it was done, did you think maybe it could have been a dream or did it feel different than that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no, I said I could meditate too, but I could pick up from the energy, the energy vortex, I'm going to die.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, no, I knew who I met.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like sort of like, we are cognizing him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: An empty sigh, it only took me about the little year they made my guide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know that when people ask me about my near-death experience and they say was it like a dream, I tell them no, it was more real than this right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I have had experiences in talking with my spirit guides and Meditation and visualizing the face of my spirit guide or some of the visions I see when I'm doing mediumship It isn't a dream.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to describe and that's why I ask you because I don't know how to describe the difference between When I'm dreaming and I awaken

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[SPEAKER_00]: and that vision goes away and you know that it was a dream but this different right this is different we don't do it, it doesn't go away, it doesn't go anywhere but if that dream had to my faith it won't go away now let me give you another example when I retired I got the

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[SPEAKER_00]: It normally ran 46 weeks and I had it for 12 weeks and I had a couple of points and nearly died.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a long summer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At one point I met the path dad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember being in my parents bed and the blanket that I had made out of wool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was sort of a blue bean wool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember starting new looking down on myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a parent who's sleeping in the blanket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It bowed at him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't sleep in a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm looking down and I'm thinking, no, I took her on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd see her back then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the basic thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not ready to leave yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I woke up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Starting new in the blanket with the word why did I remember thinking, why was I looking down at my tent?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that would have been a form of, I would say, either after production, or I would have been an out-of-body experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pick up hit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's a problem because it's continued on, and not come back, but I chose this day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that would be a moment to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sixty-three years, sixty-four years later, and you remember that like it was yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So not like a dream being.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, dreams you forget so quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These experiences that out of body, the near death, you don't forget.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you're having a medium-ship reading, it's a different feeling than a dream.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I'm doing medium-chip, I'm sharing myself with spirit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not possession, because to me, possession is something that unboundary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, because they did it, boundary, I moved my third goal with samha on some level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they come in in the early days, I would see things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But after that, once I got to hang up, it was more a dream, a consciousness, like we were saying, thought, like, they would speak an intermediate, and I would speak a

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[SPEAKER_00]: out and it was not uncomfortable and at that time my guy said I learned to work with each other through that medium ship and they would bring him the people who were coming to me but they all give me a matter of protection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that really when I do my medium ship work often I channel it is simple like a dream of consciousness thing and it's so easy and smooth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel like I'm watching TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, it is, and it's interesting because I feel as though it's filtered somehow through my spirit guides because I know sometimes I've sensed a spirit coming to me and I'm hearing some type of song and I'm saying this person is singing in Russian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: or German or Spanish, but I'm understanding, or they're speaking to me in Spanish, but I'm understanding them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't speak Spanish or German or Russian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm understanding them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell you the words are language.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like my spirit guides are translating for me so I'm understanding them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I still somehow know it's this other language.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, or I'll say, okay, it's some Eastern European language.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't recognize it, and they'll say, oh, yes, my uncle is from Czechoslovakia, and I'll go, okay, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and sometimes I get the occult in a place like I had in a big woman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kept hearing her mother.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was an alhamdulillah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With me, everything is all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not if they too many what then is no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Until when did you write that up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I gave it to her, to the woman in front of me and that comforted her a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had a little faith in her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, language.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, sometimes all I see is pictures of things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I never forget the father that came through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he kept insisting on these two pictures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He kept showing me a casserole dish and a hot dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I relayed the message and this young woman just started crying and she said, she says, yes, it's my dad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my dad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She said when she was eight years old, she used to make this hot dog casserole for her dad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was all she could make back then and her daddy loved it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure it was a wonderful, but you know, but he loved it because it was something she could make for him at that age, and apparently he died not long after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a special memory that they had, but he kept insisting, you know, these,

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[SPEAKER_01]: images kept coming through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, until Dr. the physical sensation and that was a medical intuitive content for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't even tell you how somebody died.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the last illness was because they hit me with a symptom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To the point where I feel like I'm a walking girl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it an anime?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I parted my body and never thought about it until so many times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But sometimes I can even read experiences.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember doing one eating for a bed rackhouse bar and I did the cry down to earth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In some vehicles and it was pretty scary and it turned out the person coming through had died in a helicopter class.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had literally seen the last minute to see his eyes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he even would it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the man sitting in front of me, it would for his friend who had left somebody

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[SPEAKER_00]: that helicopter car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very important for that man to come to to get the message to the guys and he could be ready to have fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy to be the messenger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And fortunately, even though you're feeling like you're falling in a helicopter, you know it's not you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but with a little, a nobody is, yeah, it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like when it does calm, when you can, the entity that's not coming up at me, often, bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that, that bit, before the impact occurred, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I would have wanted to see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it's, um, being a medium is not for whims.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, being a medical intuitive is not for whims.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Seeing, you know, that someone is at the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because you look at them and you see a particular thing that tells you at their terminal, seeing cancer, seeing things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's something you have to agree to because you can stop it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can say no, but it also can be a beautiful, beautiful gift.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to be able to help someone to send them to the doctor when they need to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what do you think about the gifts that you were given?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you glad you received these gifts?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you appreciative that this is something that you have a gift for?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm always thanking them for doing this work, because to me it's a blessing and an honor to be able to help other people this way, because to being peace of mind and comfort, to help people gain clarity and understanding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and the very way of handling something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a very humbling experience to be able to have that kind of impact on everybody's life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're going to grab a new bubble for a minute or two, we'll cook something that can do whatever they want with the information that I gave them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just a messenger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, said, and I've done my best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, everyone seems to ask not everyone, many people ask, what is the purpose of my life?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would you say to someone that says, what is my purpose for being here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: where I do get that question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I give them what I fear, but I let them know that it up to them to confirm that and that it up to them to discover, but I'm not sure what their life purpose is, and if more than one purpose in life will come with a number of purpose is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly the point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, everyone thinks they are the work for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And everyone thinks it's one little thing, one thing that is your purpose, but it's so many, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So your life has been so big and so special because of your intuition.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, did your parents have intuition?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Were they maybe a little different because of your intuition?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, my mom was fainted and her mother and her mother, but it was not something you wanted to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, back there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, back there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, back there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they did not believe in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, other than if he incident they cared, I didn't really talk about it until I was in my 30s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, my mom got infected and that is better than the medium sick part after my dad died when I was 45.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then her but dad maintained all the way up to the end that it was there, the big crock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They all find out after they pass, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you think about people in general?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do they need to be born with it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can anyone become intuitive?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can anyone establish gifts?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or do you have to be special?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have to be born special?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go ahead and say you have to be special because you are getting ordinary human being.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a clear intake that open our eyes tiered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's something that would agree to the part before we come into the site time in the intended inclination, then things will happen that will get you on that path.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, when they eat the face born with it, I'm thinking more like the made agreement made before coming into the site.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they find

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[SPEAKER_00]: it interacting pretty hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Explore the different areas, automatic lighting, panorama cards, channel, anything that anything MC will you might have again, but the biggest thing is everyone to open up your interest and I do feel that everybody has interest and to some extent or another,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now when I say everybody, I've had people who pull me on that, but I've worked with little police officers and I told them, you know, that cops hunt, where you think something's a little app or maybe you need to check it out a little further.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever, yeah, that is intuition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've told the sentence in delicious, where you look at the view, that's an article, every thing looks a little patient look, no matter the sentence, or that you can quite put your finger on, and want to get into your camera for a minute, but, maybe, it's intuition.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that hair on the back of your neck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It stands up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, oh that's a very good pun that you be in a situation that somebody said something or whatever not hair and the back of your neck goes then or whatever other term you have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's actually scientific that is where you're using your subconscious mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we have our conscious mind that we walk around with in the world that we use every day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we have our subconscious mind that works kind of behind the scenes and it's working all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: looking at things and noticing things that were not really really aware of in our conscious mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say that we walk into a restaurant that we haven't been at before and something tells us, I don't think we want to eat at this restaurant, but we don't know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but maybe we see that waitress, the waitress reminds us of a waitress that we saw at another restaurant and we didn't like her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was mean and rude and oh I guess we call them servers today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry I'm showing my age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: that kind of just reminds us, but we're not consciously thinking of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all subconscious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe we smell the faintest faintest smell of something burnt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not so much that we consciously notice it, but subconsciously it's there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe we see in the corner some dirt, but we don't really see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it's that subconscious feeling, you know, and so we decide now, this isn't the restaurant for us It's kind of like walking down the street and you get that feeling that says I don't think I want to go to the left because I just get that Irre feeling and maybe subconsciously you're kind of saw somebody out of the corner of your eye That walked down that way, but you didn't consciously see him, but he looked kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: creepy, I don't know, or you saw that bulge in his jacket pocket that might have looked like a gun or something, but again consciously you didn't see it, and you just get that feeling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe your deceased grandparent,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is also giving you that message that says, there's danger that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to go that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when you're using that mysterious sense that intuition and you don't even maybe realize you're using it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when you want to match those two things and you can really keep yourself out of danger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you can really work towards an intuitive life that is beautiful and knowledgeable and safe and lovely, absolutely magnificent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we're hoping that this podcast will bring to you when we bring on wonderful people like Sue,

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[SPEAKER_01]: who can help you to understand how this intuition works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can match those two scientific and intuitive ways to make your life that much better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and I would say that intuition would come from several parts of the lesson, common sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because people get into situation for their not thinking, they didn't have to give them some common scent advice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, of their ways and common scents, interpretation, and that material is a little something that did not that may come from the Atari Tech part of the

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did all come together and come by this and that really got your insight because when I was using the example of police and police they had the opportunity and it did all come together and they got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right and you've got to use your confidence because not only do you need your confidence in that hair on the back of your neck feeling but with your intuition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and you have to learn how to treat it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For the beginner who you've been doing that for the Akai, you have to go with it a track that sharing my claim book, I don't know, you have to get out on a limb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see things that don't make sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think of that my imagination.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it is not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every time I dismiss it, it comes back to hand to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to start to go with it, and I'll say, okay, they sound very, very, very, very good to me, but then I'll lay out what I see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And nine pounds out of ten, it'll be confirmed and validated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, and I'll tell you, you know, as a medium, people come to you and they're sitting in front of you, and there are a lot of skeptics out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They come in, it's like, okay, I paid my 50 bucks, and I'm sitting in front of you, and it's like, give me what you got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to prove you wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not a medium.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to prove you wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you see?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and they've got a negative blocked off attitude, which by the way, does not help the medium.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Makes it extremely, really hard to do or reading on that person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then what are you getting?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're getting something stupid in your brain like a hot dog and a casserole dish and you're thinking I don't know if I can say what I'm seeing because it seems so silly and so you say it and they're going what and of course in this case of course when I was telling you about the hot dog and casserole dish it was right on but then all of a sudden the medium's going um do I really want to say what I'm seeing and where does the best way to

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[SPEAKER_01]: come in and just what you said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Practice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: about this cleric and normally when I come into a room for a paper I can't scan for any of these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And usually when I say a couple people I barely open any there they can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But up to my left they took one guy who did newly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Black rap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are intubes, myself, I gave my little spear, like down the ground with it and I turned to him and pointed it up and got him and I said, please drop it, drop it, you're negative any detail you're blocking it up, you're making it hidey for me to tune in, if you

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I wasn't quite intended to be very stern with him, but it broke through his cup to see some.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, then on, I'll take with you flow with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I've been doing this long enough now that I've got our confidence, but it took a little while at the beginning with people that would come in with these attitudes and yeah, sometimes they were really

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[SPEAKER_01]: Black and negative and yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you got the one that do not want to hear from who I belong to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this is October 20th, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thunderbolt that the man had this insatiable clothing for pumpkin ice cream.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or pumpkin something, something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What the closer the good band with pumpkin I came in, I met a band after that, I could only eat one spoon but at a time, and I knew somebody was waiting to come through because I never could be so scared of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It had 14 people and it put it 4 people too many funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I knew that they pancon day is saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody looking at these are their member pancon pancon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pancon day, here they heard it said the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this young lady very said her hand is saying a very cold voice, but her great aunt had loved pancon yogurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the moment you're going to hear from her, what are you like or they're not, and now you are used to meth tape, I have two, and when I've got home that night I do it, I just have pumpkin ice cream, because sometimes they have the teeth on them, but they want to or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I knew I did a reading once with a lady who her mother came in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she said, no, no, no, that's not who I want to hear from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I'm sorry, your mother really wants to talk to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she says, no, no, no, no, I don't want to hear from her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, she has a message for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And finally, she said, all right, what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when I got the message, I thought, oh, no, she doesn't want to hear this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it was about the affair that she had had and how it had really upset her husband who was generous and kind enough to stay with her even after the affair and how she really needed to treat him better because he was a kind and generous man and she did not want to hear that message.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when a young people learn, I think I've mentioned it to you because so many times they try to do a quick interpretation that allowed it more just what comes to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But sometimes somebody really has to do a little bit of marketing, so all started going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I have so many mediums, I have no control over who comes to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But bad at me go long time, rather bad about it, when I decided it could be me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I decided to try this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say after doing all these people, if anybody you want to hear them

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[SPEAKER_00]: and a lot of time there was there years and these people couldn't do because other people were cutting them out into the land but had you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would say who would say that he wanted to hear from them in your lives and to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My mom, my legs both went whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would put that invitation out there and they had to be back to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would come in, I would be quiet but I would see them to make

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would go and start working with that because sometimes they can't make the boy just heard or they can't get any of these dogs and have to push through to the front of the land.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because sometimes you really do want to hear from a person in the safe way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could never do a big medium check, damn it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then already in the picture or more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because everybody want to hear from somebody and I can feel what need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: them every one of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they don't have it in me to only pick three or four people in the dammer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would be one thing for everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone in the room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've never understood the reading in a big room because there would be, you know, so many spirits coming at me at once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had, but if anything is in a state cycle, there may be some commonalities, like from time to time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't remember one cycle for the two different violators.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The people around me, not the violators, to each other, are two violators coming, that would have the same work that they were engineers in life, the example, and I would have to tell Okal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got a violator and you got a violator, about what engineers,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now need to figure out what it would, and some information was common that would make me settle on the page and go with it as anyone to, yeah, would come around and do that other page and be ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes they're a pattern in good greetings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe how you trained as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it could be fascinating, it might be something else to try or to look into.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been fascinating, but the whole point is, but anybody beginning or wanting to try, I would say experiment with all the different things that entered the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if it's doubting, pendulum, or immaterializing medium-ship, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Experimenting, play with it, if you will, and see if it takes you see, but you have to practice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if it doesn't work out for you, great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot do it upon myself, my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've had my moment of sacrament, if only hold an object, then suck up the energy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But none of that is ever worth it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're better than a scientist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that some may be impamantaka hamma in the winter maybe I saw that he was always used.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then they'll be at a time when you prepare a creative time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other small things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm something of a medical intuitive but I didn't use it all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I sometimes have my other senses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Aqueous sunshine sent a cookin' in my car, already earned a clear, good deal with its other hand or other tight smile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've learned about Amnara Bad Dowsay and I've used Dowsings to locate any of these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't had a look in for water yet, but I've had some classes on Dowsings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with coat hangers, but nothing we learn is ever, ever wasted and please everybody put in the mouth, fuckers, fuckers, fuckers, fuckers, I get out on that limb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right, right, try it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as long as you're using good intentions, good ethics, and you're doing everything in love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really would emphasize, don't go anything into the dark side at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because having been to that other side and seeing what it's all about, it is all about love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and being on that other side, it is definitely completely about love, so if you try to go and get some kind of special gift or power by using some kind of witchcraft, whatever, please don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was completely agree that they did meant to be with love and if I ever tried,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not that I would not know that if I ever tried to be as my world through a rhythm or something that wasn't too, my guide would hand me my butt on a plate in no time at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that the other thing that I have to be very honest and upfront now I have to be careful how I say something but it's the 100% honest and the thing is

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I feel that I cannot read for you, I will tell you so in my early days, I will come across the card and I will tell you to the person in front of me, I'm new, I'm telling how do you mind if I look up to reading, the meaning of the card, and then with the right of it, it will be helping me to develop my knowledge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would look it up and I would say, okay, this is what they call it about, but this is what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those words, let me know if that would happen or not, but I love that all the love that we're not saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even now, till the days, I'm sorry, it's not me, but I'm not picking up anything, so it's really not meant to be between you and me at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Please, my people, you teach somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They appreciated that I wasn't trying to be as my word to you, so I said that they got the money out of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That I would tell, let's try this order or that we didn't see how that works for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have never had anybody complaining about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you're being honest, ethical, you have high standards and that's wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that we're running out of time here, but you have been so helpful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have taught us so much, and I have absolutely loved having you on today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love doing this with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So much so I'm probably going to drag you back here another time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I would love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's make sure that people know how to get a hold of you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In case they want to do a reading with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you are in the Orange County California area in Southern California.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People are able to come and see you in person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But your email address.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is LilithM at Juno.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me spell that out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's L-I-L-I-T-H-M at JunoJ-U-N-O.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, that's Sue Jorgensen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will have that information also on my website.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So did you want to help me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll be happy to be found this illness I can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, again, thank you for coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really appreciate it.